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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: Poorly-paid neighbor
« Last post by unix on June 23, 2018, 06:00:46 am »

The altitude poster does apply to me, however. And to others I know.


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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: Poorly-paid neighbor
« Last post by I D Shukhov on June 23, 2018, 05:51:56 am »

I used to see this poster on the walls at work.  Suppose there's truth to it:

This is more to the point than your marcomm motivational poster. This is 100% true:



Sorry I got this started.  This should finish off the thread:

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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: Poorly-paid neighbor
« Last post by unix on June 22, 2018, 07:15:39 pm »
I have been reading a lot of self-help motivational stuff.

I've come to realize that parental influence is highly important. They program you for the rest of your life and you cannot escape that programming. Or very difficult.

We all need  psychologists. /sigh
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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: Poorly-paid neighbor
« Last post by The Gorn on June 22, 2018, 07:09:53 pm »
Of course the motivational stuff can't help the guy. Otherwise he  wouldn't be bagging groceries at this point in his life.
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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: Poorly-paid neighbor
« Last post by unix on June 22, 2018, 07:08:46 pm »
sigh

I was being facetious.

It's just that this shyt is being quoted in the wrong context and for the wrong reason. I dont know the guy in the OP but it's very doubtful all this motivational stuff can help him. The two-byte message against 40 years of pathologies.
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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: Poorly-paid neighbor
« Last post by The Gorn on June 22, 2018, 07:01:25 pm »
The one I posted is a quote from Henry Ford. Besides being a notable Hitler supporter  >:D he wrote that quote.

It's completely true and you can't escape the facts.

If you think you can do something, you will be likely to find a way to do it.

If you believe you can't do something, you most likely won't ever even start.

If you guys see every constructive summary of human nature to be a marketing-communication or HR platitude, then y'all are lost.

I'm Mr Cynical Negative Boil-the-World-in-Satan's-Deep-Fryer-Oil and I know that attitude is EVERYTHING even if you want to dismiss  the idea as rah rah.
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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: Poorly-paid neighbor
« Last post by unix on June 22, 2018, 06:24:09 pm »
I dunno. For some reason I hate this motivational bullshyte.

LOL

I am more aligned with this:





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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: Poorly-paid neighbor
« Last post by The Gorn on June 22, 2018, 06:01:48 pm »

I used to see this poster on the walls at work.  Suppose there's truth to it:

This is more to the point than your marcomm motivational poster. This is 100% true:

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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: Poorly-paid neighbor
« Last post by unix on June 22, 2018, 05:45:58 pm »
So he works for near-min wage but owns a house, so he is already ahead of many people. Cash poor, property-not-so-poor.

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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: And my inevitable picky thoughts
« Last post by I D Shukhov on June 22, 2018, 04:17:25 pm »

Of course, this man is at a low ebb in his life and career that most likely he won't ever escape from. And he has a master's degree.

You probably brought this up as a signpost or indicator that the labor market is so f***ed today that many capable professionals and older individuals simply cant' find suitable work. They have to settle for jobs that someone with no education and very low cognitive abilities can perform.

Maybe I am at even a lower rung than this guy, because I'm in that age bracket and I absolutely refuse to consider employment with dunces. So maybe I am cutting my nose off despite my own face.

Anyway -

Horror stories like this are constructive if they help you in that area of life somehow. We have no idea how this man got to this place in his life, what mistakes he made, what he did wrong, what he attempted and got shot down trying to accomplish. 

Since this guy is a cipher, all you're doing is posting a sob story of sorts that has no takeaways or warnings.

Given that a healthy vibrant economy should somehow provide near-suitable employment for someone with demonstrated competency, all we can do is hypothesize what could have lead him here:

- Disability with regard to attentional stuff - not being able to focus on high level tasks. (or other type of disability.)
- Washed out of IT due to age (the obvious issue for us on this board to discuss)
- Legal status (sexual offender, white collar crime, etc) - something that would cause rejection for professional employment.

Or kind of self created:

- Arrogant old fart who has high IQ tendencies, therefore he doesn't take new trends in his profession seriously. I read recently that the overly intelligent tend to race to conclusions and not factor in paradigm shifts.

- Lack of imagination and tunnel vision. The problem of most of us in this age group.

- Low self esteem.

- The unwillingness to just try something even though it seems unproductive.

- The unwillingness to learn.

- Willful lack of engagement, laziness and/or stupidity.
He seems like a genuinely ok guy.  His house is a shining example in the neighborhood and he's always going out of his way to help neighbors.  But who know's what's going on inside someone's head.

My bet is something along the lines of negative self image.  He's been out of the workforce for at least 10+ years and he's in his 50s, so the headwinds probably seem insurmountable. He's not sitting on a pile of cash because he's working because he has to.

I used to see this poster on the walls at work.  Suppose there's truth to it:
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