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I am a cheaper bastard than you.  I buy used tires.  In great condition.

Until I found that the thing that expires a tire is its age, not necessarily just miles.

i.e. a 15 year old new-never-mounted tire can be junk.

It was shipped under my Amazon Prime. No charge for shipping. Just state sales tax. No rebate offered, however. Buuut... maybe a rebate is offered by the manufacturer for this sale. I'll check that out.

Normally I don't do a lot of penny pinching on low value transactions but this savings amounted to several hundred dollars.

Amazon seems extremely unlikely for buying tires but you can buy furniture and lawnmowers through them, so what the hey.

In a broader sense is this how the economy works? Like two or three major corporations "allowed" to do business with the public?
$75 beats Tire Rack:  $115.62 for that Cooper tire, but you get a $100 rebate, so it's about $90/tire.
Did you say what you paid for shipping?

I might do this same process for tires.  Thanks!

Cooper Zeon RS3-G1
Ultra High Performance All-Season
Size: 225/50R17 98W XL
Load Range: XL
Serv. Desc: 98W
UTQG: 500 AA A
Special Offer: Get a $100 Cooper Tires Visa Prepaid Card or Cooper Prepaid Mastercard Virtual Account via mail-in rebate.

It was the middling, not the best of tires. They needed replacement on my vehicle.  :P

I have about 48K on a set of "Yokohama Avid Envigor" on my Nissan Maxima that were installed in November 2010.

I looked up the sales receipt and I paid $836 out the door for that set of tires + installation at the not-aptly named local store "Tire Discounters".

In the last year or so I had become quite dissatisfied with the performance of these tires. Snow driving was a joke, more like a motorized sled. I'd slide on wet roads and spin out when starting from stopped without any effort. Lastly, the tread is quite thin, and I'm seeing some fine cracking in the rubber of these tires.

Time for new tires.

I was initially looking for a deal at the local Sam's Club, which would provide integrated purchase and installation services.  Sam's seemed to beat the best prices from the local tire store chains.

The very "best" deal in terms of online reviews and tire specs I could find available at Sam's were "Kumho Ecsta PA31 Performance Radials" at about $93/tire plus installation services.

Then I started looking online. Of course, I wound up at the smuggest prick of alls' site... These particular tires are currently $66 through Amazon, on Prime shipment.

OK, now I'm discarding local purchase as an option.  :( I'll certainly deal with a little hassle to save $100+. I can simply load the delivered tires up in my car and go to my local mechanic who charges $24 per axle for balance+install+discarding the oldie.

So what did I wind up buying and having delivered?

NOTE: I ONLY PAID $75/wheel for these tires! The price seems to have gone up $10 in the last week.

I ordered them on a Friday. They arrived the following Monday afternoon. 3 actual days. They're stacked in the garage awaiting my appointment for installation.

And pray tell, just for grins, what is the local price for the same item?

One place ("Tire Discounters"):

How about another local chain? ("Bob Sumerel"):

And JUST FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES... What is a local dealer charging for the tires I am now driving which cost over 200 per axle installed?

So buy the commodity locally and pay from double to MORE THAN TWICE what the same item costs online.

And, see the asked price locally drop like a rock for something that you paid top money for a few years ago.

Each of these local chains has a "price matching" offer. But I am so far from their asking price for this item that I didn't bother. I would expect them to call bullshit and cite a limitation of their offer so it would not apply.

Also after seeing this I simply don't want to give the local chains my business. It leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

So what if Jeff Bezos forces his squat paid contractors to piss in bottles on the production line and prohibits injured employees from receiving help from co-workers?


This is why anyone with a brain needs to move online ASAP for their livelihood. It's almost unreal how unrealistic local business has become in trying to squeeze a nickel out of anyone dumb enough to shop them.
All Technology & Tech Help / Re: Windows 10 keeps changing
« Last post by unix on July 29, 2018, 10:42:33 am »
I manage Linux systems at my gig.. but somehow haven't tried to convert my machine yet.
All Technology & Tech Help / Re: Windows 10 keeps changing
« Last post by The Gorn on July 29, 2018, 10:10:36 am »

MS owns the entire laptop/PC operating system landscape. why can't Linux finally take over this mess?

Marketing, and legal issues (companies love to have a vendor to sue and for credibility.) Plus the normies - the intellectually barely adequate masses - are easily scared to death of anything requiring tinkering.

It's totally your choice if you want to make a move.  You can read right on this forum about the fun I've had maintaining a stable usable desktop platform.
All Technology & Tech Help / Re: Windows 10 keeps changing
« Last post by unix on July 29, 2018, 09:12:23 am »

MS owns the entire laptop/PC operating system landscape. why can't Linux finally take over this mess?

All Technology & Tech Help / Re: Windows 10 keeps changing
« Last post by pxsant on July 29, 2018, 08:27:02 am »
Windows 10 is an absolute piece of crap.   You can't disable updates anymore.   Windows 10 did an update on my machine yesterday that took 3 hours and multiple reboots.  And now things have changed yet again.   What a POS.
All Technology & Tech Help / Windows 10 keeps changing
« Last post by unix on July 29, 2018, 07:02:07 am »

Trying to find instructions how to do this or that and a lot of times finding versions that are not even applicable at all to the latest-greatest.  Windows 10 has changed significantly versus previous versions like Seven.

The menus change. Options change. Some have been entirely disabled.

What a cluster.

Discussions - Public / Re: Drink up! You'll live longer
« Last post by unix on July 29, 2018, 02:30:34 am »

Now *that* is weird.

JF, there are various brands of buttermilk. The  generic store brands really suck and not fit for much beyond cooking but something good from WholeFoods is worthwhile. It also goes by the name kefir, which is the same concept, they just add a bit of flavor into it.
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