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Yeah, in general, Amazon is a social causes libtard version of Walmart that creates the same kinds of economic hardship in competitors.

As far as demand pricing, my tires went up about $10 when I re-checked the other day when I posted this... Cooper tires was offering a $100 rebate for purchases in July, and I am wondering if AMZN was squeezing the price on last minute purchasers because of the rebate deadline. I can totally see that.

Believe me, this pricing was the lowest I found when I searched several online channels, and Walmart  was totally acceptable because I could get free shipping to the local store. Amazon had  the best price for these tires. It must be all of the virgins they sacrifice.  :P

Prime is still a good deal and they have a "mini Netflix" service. We like some of the original series such as "Man in the High Castle".

I can act opportunistically, too. I'll drop Prime like a rock if I feel like the deals are not worth it.
The ONLY reason I use Amazon its because its cheap and the no hassle shipping. I dont really like Amazon and Bezos and their flavor of politics. They have removed books from their store because certain "special" groups have complained about it. Its freaking censorship no matter how you slice. Oh you are offended? Tough shit. Its not up to decide what I can/cannot see. I have 2 words for that F*CK YOU. Amazon is another business that is sponging off the taxpayer on multiple levels.

Amazon's days are numbered IMO. Here is why - both Target, Walmart and others are now do exactly what Amazon does. I normally dont shop at Walmart because most of what they have is substandard and the store by my house is an Indian shithole (its the dirtiest Walmart I have ever seen - no joke. The store literally 3rd world dirty).

Regardless I ordered something from Walmart online and was very pleasantly surprised. They shipped fast, no grief and the item was exactly the same as was being sold by Amazon and it was cheaper. I normally price check everything I buy online as Amazon surprisingly sometimes hoses you. They engage in dynamic pricing which basically means if they see demand going up they jack up the price. Same thing the airlines do. Amazon is very predatorial, make no bones about it. Once they finish exterminating their competition they are going to raise prices.

I am glad that Walmart and Target have entered the fray. There is no reason that they cant do exactly what Amazon does. They already have the infrastructure AND physical stores.

In the last year I have been buying stuff off of Ebay from little sellers. Why? No tax and they frequently have free shipping. Granted its not 2 day shipping ala Amazon Prime. Amazon Prime is now hosing everyone. They jacked up the price in the last year from $100 to $120. Thats a 20% increase just because they can. I did cost benefit analysis about how much I buy and the cost of shipping. The prime pays for itself but that is starting to erode with their increases. Frankly Amazon prime now costs more than Costco. And Costco is selling online now as well. They also have the infrastructure.

The thing about the tires is good to know. I have a freaking German car that uses high performance tires. The dam things are $250+ a piece. 4 tires is easily like $1K+. The last set I got at the dealer because the dealer is matching the local tire shops. I know I got plowed but what choice did I really have unless I bought online.

I have never bought tires online via Tirerack because I didnt want to deal with the bullshit of finding someone to mount them. Here in the People's Republic of NJ independent auto mechanics are now hard to come by. Two reasons it has happened, the first is the state govmt. The NJ state govmt has put the stones to all the independent mechanics via environmental bullshit. I have a friend that only repairs VW, Audi and Porsche. He had quite the nice business going with no shortage of demand. Anyway the state was constantly screwing with them. They would come in and demand to see where he store the used oil, coolant and other shit. He had tanker trucks in the back where it was collected and than towed away. They would show up with no notice and want to do an inspection on the spot. They would inspect the garage floor for fresh oil/coolant stains. Than there was bullshit about seeing the cars in the lot waiting to be repaired. It was an eyesore and environmentally not safe because the cars leak fluid.

Anyway he had enough after years and years of this bullshit so he sold it. The second reason ss because of the computerization of the cars. They cant cope with all the electronics and sensors so a lot of them have closed shop. It sucks frankly and when I take my car to the dealer they plow me and than than some.

But I need to rethink this because if I can get my performance tires much less online - guess what? I will make the effort to find someone who will do it.

Only a moron will be persuaded to change their vote by a Facebook ad.

No, but it might motivate people to go vote.

I D, my opinion is that you're idealizing Amazon's role.

Amazon Prime started around $79/year and is now $120/yr for the same services. A 50% jump in about 3 years. They'll do exactly the same with fulfillment services over time.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I see them very much like Wal-Mart, which completely disrupts the retail in any area it moves into... except that Amazon disrupts retail across the country and maybe the world.  Wal-Mart has a verifiable track record of raising prices in communities wherever it succeeds in shutting down competing retail.

I expect exactly the same opportunistic profit-seeking behavior out of Amazon. It is simply what corporations do.

Yes, Amazon is now highly cost-effective for the biz support services you cite.That's their entry tactic. Not something they are obliged to continue.

Secondly, I don't see Amazon moving into local services as a great thing for independent contractors. Ever hear of borks?

You guys don't have any experience with the marketing and selling of short term gig based services. I, however, do. Borks exist at all levels.

The bottom line is that an "umbrella" service provider like Amazon Home Services acts exactly like a bork.

The WORST rates and treatment come about when you go into a short term project as a temp contractor working for an agency.

The problem here is that if Amazon gets traction they will convince consumers that they should never, ever deal with independents who don't work under the Amazon banner.

Also Amazon will do just as borks do which is castrate the need for the small time operator to market themselves.

Marketing yourself is a critical phase for all small service guys to pass through. Many of the failed freelancers I know looked for "programs" and sponsors to help them.

just like FB is working on getting rid of fake accounts which abuse their platform to influence people politically.

You say that like it's a fact and a thing, which it is neither. Only a moron will be persuaded to change their vote by a Facebook ad.

Amazon does a poor job of removing scammy vendors or bad products. If it sells, it stays up there.
Discussions - Public / Re: Drink up! You'll live longer
« Last post by JoFrance on August 01, 2018, 01:49:03 pm »
I've heard of kefir.  A lot of people like that.  I prefer wine, beer or tea.   I like lime in my beer, but hmm, salt?  I might try a bit and see what it tastes like.  I don't have a sweet tooth either.  Give me anything with a cheese sauce or potatoes.   :D

I just noticed something, Gorn.  The cheesy and laugh emoticons are the same.
I think so. Retailers are actually middlemen which take some profit for having a store, keeping an inventory and having employees.  Amazon does those things a lot better.  It's disintermediating retailer-middlemen and allowing wholesalers to sell directly to the consumer.  Amazon's return policy takes care of the screw-ups and their rating system helps somewhat about making good decisions.  However, that needs some improvement:

I expect Amazon to get on this better just like FB is working on getting rid of fake accounts which abuse their platform to influence people politically.

The consumer wins, does he not?
How so?


Amazon is removing the ability for startups to create scalable businesses
It depends on what the business is doing.  If they are making something, then Amazon and eBay are great online sales and distribution platforms.   If they are a hands-on service Amazon shouldn't disrupt them.  Interestingly, Amazon now has something called Amazon Home Services which will help the following businesses market themselves:


Also a bunch of home improvement services with little pictures to show what the service is,

That's about the same space that TaskRabbit is in.  TaskRabbit might be in trouble.

This is about small businesses outsourcing distribution and online sales and some marketing to Amazon.
How so?


Amazon is removing the ability for startups to create scalable businesses
The trucks I've been seeing are large white delivery trucks.  I think they usually have Amazon markings.  It's probably a lot easier for them in a dense suburban area of a big city in terms of number of deliveries per square mile.

They do the same thing -- throw a white plastic package made out of a tough bubble wrap material onto the porch.  One time I saw they lied about the status saying that it had been "handed directly to the customer", which it hadn't.   I Googled on this and other people have had the same experience.   I wonder why the driver would do that?  Usually the delivery status just says "delivered".   

The last delivery displayed a picture of my item sitting on the porch and the page even had a option for me check to indicate that I agreed with the photo!   I've read that Amazon has a big problem with thieves stealing packages -- thus the (IMO) crazy idea of them installing a lock on the door which their delivery people can use to place the item inside the house.  This scheme comes with a camera that is trained on the inside of the front door.

Amazon has also been mulling over the idea, or maybe they're already doing it, of putting the item in your car's trunk.  For high-value items they have locker locations, which I've used a couple of times for returns, but I usually drop off returns at a UPS store nearby.

Amazon's business might be worth following.   I could almost see having a permanent thread somewhere here.  One reason would be to decide whether to buy their stock.  Otherwise, I don't care how they do what they do as long as I get my orders.  I have to say they are remarkably reliable.

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