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Good to know. Thanks for posting. I didn't know about that danger.
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 Li-ion batteries are very dangerous when hit.

I use them every day in very high powered torches, they are not a joke. Just one is enough to set things on fire. The vehicle has a thousand of them or so. Or more.
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Discussions - Public / Re: Why smartphone cameras are blowing our minds
« Last post by unix on May 09, 2018, 02:25:57 pm »
Right

Smart phones are for the proles.
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Discussions - Public / Re: Why smartphone cameras are blowing our minds
« Last post by The Gorn on May 09, 2018, 07:06:38 am »
Pros, and serious amateurs and other users who need extremely high resolution, low grain, the ability to use multiple lenses, etc will always need to use dedicated cameras such as DSLRs or the mirrorless cameras coming out. The proles and normies will be fine with smartphone cameras.

If you need a tripod mount for stable imaging, you must use a real camera, no exceptions.
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Discussions - Public / Why smartphone cameras are blowing our minds
« Last post by ilconsiglliere on May 09, 2018, 04:47:15 am »
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/8037960069/why-smartphone-cameras-are-blowing-our-minds

My observation is that they are getting better and better. Not a DSLR but they are pretty dam good.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-09/tesla-model-s-bursts-flames-after-horrific-crash-killing-two-men-trapped-inside

I have a friend whom is a fireman who said he wont touch them if there is an accident. There is all kinds of special bullshit you have to do to deactivate the power. Very dangerous.
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Discussions - Public / Re: Decline of Geek Online Discussion
« Last post by ilconsiglliere on May 09, 2018, 03:27:40 am »
The Youtube channel is "Bladed Angel". Mostly about cars. His stuff is hilarious and informative. I can't find the video with the kill yourself shotgun meme. I went BWAH HAH HAH! when that came on.

Tribes have always been around - I think most of us just don't realize how tribal humans are and how universal tribes are, and it's generally not a bad thing. Think of lodges, fraternities, alumni, hometown sports teams. I suspect that the premise of the book "Bowling Alone" (which I never read) may stem from the lack of ways in which average people can connect through incidental social groupings.

What the elites and globalists have done is weaponize tribalism as a way to mutually antagonize groups that otherwise wouldn't really care about each other.

Sic:  I never gave two shits about gay people nor judged their lifestyle. I've known some great gays who were friends. And, gays of each sex have historically been very tribal. But what the cultural right-left war has done is weaponize the differences such that many gays are now convinced that someone who is alt-right wants to shove them into a gas chamber, when actually we don't care about them anyway.

IE, one niece is gay and she is convinced that as a Trump supporter I will automatically disapprove and reject her, so SHE is doing the rejecting of the entire family. What was a concern is weaponized into fully realized alienation and I didn't do a Goddamned thing to make it happen.

The only tribe that is not allowed to be a tribe is whites. Everyone and everything else can be a tribe but whites. If whites organize now its a problem and of course its racist.
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Discussions - Public / Re: Decline of Geek Online Discussion
« Last post by The Gorn on May 08, 2018, 06:03:30 pm »
The Youtube channel is "Bladed Angel". Mostly about cars. His stuff is hilarious and informative. I can't find the video with the kill yourself shotgun meme. I went BWAH HAH HAH! when that came on.

Tribes have always been around - I think most of us just don't realize how tribal humans are and how universal tribes are, and it's generally not a bad thing. Think of lodges, fraternities, alumni, hometown sports teams. I suspect that the premise of the book "Bowling Alone" (which I never read) may stem from the lack of ways in which average people can connect through incidental social groupings.

What the elites and globalists have done is weaponize tribalism as a way to mutually antagonize groups that otherwise wouldn't really care about each other.

Sic:  I never gave two shits about gay people nor judged their lifestyle. I've known some great gays who were friends. And, gays of each sex have historically been very tribal. But what the cultural right-left war has done is weaponize the differences such that many gays are now convinced that someone who is alt-right wants to shove them into a gas chamber, when actually we don't care about them anyway.

IE, one niece is gay and she is convinced that as a Trump supporter I will automatically disapprove and reject her, so SHE is doing the rejecting of the entire family. What was a concern is weaponized into fully realized alienation and I didn't do a Goddamned thing to make it happen.
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Discussions - Public / Re: Decline of Geek Online Discussion
« Last post by ilconsiglliere on May 08, 2018, 05:50:21 pm »
As far as me not being a nerd - you didn't know me 20+ years ago. Before about 2003 I was as aspie retard as they come. A large part of me still screams that people are always the problem and that things won't come at you by themselves and hurt you for spite but people will do so.

The other big current thread on this site at the thread about men's support forums where we segued into being connected through niche identities is relevant to this thread. Hobbies, pastimes, subject interests, and geek fixations can all be used to create tribal identities. Along with race, national origin, language, and other aspects.

Past military service. Generically it's a pretty good peer group when it's service members from a specific country. Even more social cohesion among members of particular branches of service. And the ultimate social affiliation happens between guys (or women) who were in the same units, squadrons, camps, outposts, etc.

For instance, a video on a Youtube channel I subscribed to about affordable performance cars - the guy has one video where he discusses "normies" or non-car people, people who don't care about performance. He uses the word "normies" and humorously uses a Pepe meme of holding a shotgun at his own head. (He was doing this to segue into discussing budget cars at a certain price point.) In other words, "normies who aren't into cars, kill yourselves." (I laughed my ass off with his performance.)

The point here being that car enthusiasts consider their interest level a sign of distinction and brotherhood.


Many church cultures are quite similar.

Programming can be both like a religion calling as well as a shared interest tribe. Outsiders are considered stupid, unknowledgeable, uncultured, not as worthy, and less-than. The tribalism in programming can extend to programming niches... lightweight vs heavyweight "bare metal" developers.

Or, ideological groupings. I think the Trump presidency and the alt-right galvanized a lot of middle-income and middle class whites into a feeling of belonging and cared for that they get nowhere else. (DON'T turn this into a political thread. Just using as an example.)

Lastly, perception of shared hardship adds a lot of social cohesion. Military is (in my opinion) the absolute tops for this. Blacks and some other minorities may experience fellowship through feeling of shared hardship. Programmers are the grown up equivalent of the nerd's table in the high school cafeteria.

The shared hardship may be a huge barrier to acceptance of an outsider.

Maybe people naturally seek identity thereby inducting themselves into a distinct peer group, for mutual admiration, protection and fellowship.

If you say you were a nerd, than ok. You are good guy in my book  >:D

I understand what you are saying about the tribal stuff. Make sense and I can see this happening. What I have to come to realize is the elite want the public carved into niches. Small niches are far easier to control than large mass movement.

Would love to know the name of that channel on Youtube that you mentioned about the affordable performance cars.
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I may have nerd interests, but I am far from a nerd.  I'm a people person.  My job in computer networking was to come up with solutions to business problems, implement it on the network and train the people in how to use it.  I selected and supervised consultants to do the network changes if I couldn't do them.  I worked with every person in the company, trained most of them, fixed their problems and listened to their concerns.

I worked with a lot of programmers too.  They always seemed to have their own world, their own niche and that was all they were interested in.  Their piece of the pie.  What they do is important, but they don't think about the big picture.

I've done a lot of different jobs.  Prior to my computer career, I worked in credit and collections in businesses ranging from a small finance company to collecting debts from embassies and permanent missions around the world.  I had to negotiate settlements of telecom bills with them.  It was very interesting work.  I went from that to owning a hair salon with my husband and running the business.

I've held a lot of different jobs in my life and can relate to just about anyone.  I like change.  I like hearing from people that do different things, live different lives.  There is something to learn from everyone.

I've interacted with, no kidding, hundreds of people in my life.  I know everything about them, they know nothing about me.  They never asked.  A lot of people are uncurious about others and just live in their own worlds.

Shared interests might attract some people, but you're still limiting yourself by doing that.   

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