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Photobucket still has a free version, but there are so many ads, its unusable.  I'll try imgur.  I could swear I just dragged and dropped images  to this site at one time.

I've never had that here. There is an upload attachments function in the posting window but it's never been drag and drop, and if it were so seamless that anyone could post images at random stored on my host, I would have disabled it anyway.

Imgur is used mainly for quick uploads of things like topical image memes. I think it may expire images if they aren't viewed for a certain long period of time.

Imgur is mainly for quick memes and things that you wouldn't cry over if they were lost. AFAIK it's free only.

Photobucket ruins forums everywhere by expiring old images and displaying their own watermark. I hate the paid sites like Photobucket that many normies have used over the years to post images to boards. Some forums I visit with image threads will contain nothing but "Photobucket Hosting Expired" banners for threads dated from 2013 or earlier.

Here's what I've done. I have a account that I fund every few months with $10-20.  A static website on NFS under their domain that only serves my stored images costs < $2 per month, and there is absolutely no censhorship.

So, as long as I keep the trivial hosting payment in place, I don't have to worry about my images disappearing. And I have complete control over images even if I'm banned from some board.

Discussions - Public / Re: How do I embed a statement in a picture?
« on: June 03, 2018, 07:54:51 am »
I don't know how to perform steganography on text messages embedded in images using a dedicated tool. I think you need to do this manually.

If you want to create an image meme, go to a site such as which allows you to overlay text on an image - create a meme.

Discussions - Public / Re: Amusing or Outstanding Image Memes
« on: June 02, 2018, 03:55:26 pm »
My images won't post.  Do I have to do something special?

Let's discuss in the tech topics section right here....

First of all, don't use the attachments capability of the board. It has too many restrictions and gotchas to be useful. I should hide those controls under every message editor window. I don't host any user images, with the exception of tiny, fast loading personal icon images and glyphs.

Secondly, you have to host your image or have it hosted already on the web somehow, in a way that any website like this can display it. For those of you with no website space because you don't have your own web sites, this means You don't have to register. You should be able to post an image anonymously. Save the link which you will need in order to post the image on this board.

Lastly, the image will only be displayed in your post when you have the image link in your message, BUT!  you have to surround the link to the image in an image tag.

The easiest way to do this is:

Paste your or other image link into the posting editor as text.

Then select the link with your mouse.

Then click the button above the posting editor, the miniature "Mona Lisa" to the right of the F in the red circle. If you hover the mouse over it, it says "insert image".

Pressing this button will build the image tags around your image link.


Really good, tasteless, but controversial memes for the viewing pleasure of the sophisticated and intelligent freethinker, and no others. :P  Politics and Society.

Discussions - Public / Re: Amusing or Outstanding Image Memes
« on: June 02, 2018, 08:26:48 am »

Discussions - Public / Re: so how is the economy?
« on: May 28, 2018, 06:54:48 pm »

The real estate market heating up does not make any sense - to me.

As Jo noted in her area, in my area (comparable in some ways to Central Jersey, a bit) a lot of factories relocate here and that drives jobs... a bit. But I honest don't see either jobs or wages driving wealth much in my area for the general public.

I have read that residential real estate appreciation is on a huge upward spike nationally.  My guess is that investors are simply deploying cash to investments other than the stock market or Bitcoin as a risk mitigation tactic.

IE - what does the money supply (M-numbers) indicate?

Discussions - Public / Re: so how is the economy?
« on: May 26, 2018, 07:55:24 am »
My opinion is that we have a constantly-declining "new normal" with minor upticks. In other words, the centerline or baseline what is considered a good economy today is continually declining from what we expected in the past. The full employment economy of 2018 looks like a minor depression compared to the full employment economy of 1998.

All I know is what I see locally here in Ohio. A house that 10 years ago would have gone for 110 (maybe) closed on our street recently for 178K.  Nothing by DC standards but by flyover standards we have some strong real estate speculation going on here. I constantly get a post card from some slumlord company that wants to buy my house for a rental (most of my street is owner occupied by a wide margin so I am sure they would be eager to fuck up our neighborhood for a quick profit.)

And Ohio is meth junkie and poor education / low economic value central where nobody can make anything good or valuable.

I've seen a point and shoot in the recent past (last year or so) being offered for sale on (in other words, surplus bargain bin stuff) which uses Android for its back of camera display. It was some major vendor like Nikon, Canon or Fujifilm, and the UI of the camera was Android. Of course that is getting WAY complex in regular operation for a camera.

I still like to use real cameras the way many guys like muscle cars. Style, results and outcomes not achievable using normie products and technology. :P

For the average Joe, there's no need anymore to own a separate camera. For people who know what they're doing, that's another matter. Still, it's amazing all the functions they can put into a single cellphone.

A good (>$150) smartphone camera today is better than the average digital point and shoot from 5+ years ago, which IMO was when digital P&S cameras achieved a sort of plateau of quality that made them serious instruments. A modern point and shoot or mirrorless is still much better than a smartphone. But it's a lot of heavy crap to lug. You can shove a phone in a pants pocket.

Pros, and serious amateurs and other users who need extremely high resolution, low grain, the ability to use multiple lenses, etc will always need to use dedicated cameras such as DSLRs or the mirrorless cameras coming out. The proles and normies will be fine with smartphone cameras.

If you need a tripod mount for stable imaging, you must use a real camera, no exceptions.

Discussions - Public / Re: Decline of Geek Online Discussion
« on: May 08, 2018, 06:03:30 pm »
The Youtube channel is "Bladed Angel". Mostly about cars. His stuff is hilarious and informative. I can't find the video with the kill yourself shotgun meme. I went BWAH HAH HAH! when that came on.

Tribes have always been around - I think most of us just don't realize how tribal humans are and how universal tribes are, and it's generally not a bad thing. Think of lodges, fraternities, alumni, hometown sports teams. I suspect that the premise of the book "Bowling Alone" (which I never read) may stem from the lack of ways in which average people can connect through incidental social groupings.

What the elites and globalists have done is weaponize tribalism as a way to mutually antagonize groups that otherwise wouldn't really care about each other.

Sic:  I never gave two shits about gay people nor judged their lifestyle. I've known some great gays who were friends. And, gays of each sex have historically been very tribal. But what the cultural right-left war has done is weaponize the differences such that many gays are now convinced that someone who is alt-right wants to shove them into a gas chamber, when actually we don't care about them anyway.

IE, one niece is gay and she is convinced that as a Trump supporter I will automatically disapprove and reject her, so SHE is doing the rejecting of the entire family. What was a concern is weaponized into fully realized alienation and I didn't do a Goddamned thing to make it happen.

Discussions - Public / Re: Decline of Geek Online Discussion
« on: May 08, 2018, 01:05:40 pm »
As far as me not being a nerd - you didn't know me 20+ years ago. Before about 2003 I was as aspie retard as they come. A large part of me still screams that people are always the problem and that things won't come at you by themselves and hurt you for spite but people will do so.

The other big current thread on this site at the thread about men's support forums where we segued into being connected through niche identities is relevant to this thread. Hobbies, pastimes, subject interests, and geek fixations can all be used to create tribal identities. Along with race, national origin, language, and other aspects.

Past military service. Generically it's a pretty good peer group when it's service members from a specific country. Even more social cohesion among members of particular branches of service. And the ultimate social affiliation happens between guys (or women) who were in the same units, squadrons, camps, outposts, etc.

For instance, a video on a Youtube channel I subscribed to about affordable performance cars - the guy has one video where he discusses "normies" or non-car people, people who don't care about performance. He uses the word "normies" and humorously uses a Pepe meme of holding a shotgun at his own head. (He was doing this to segue into discussing budget cars at a certain price point.) In other words, "normies who aren't into cars, kill yourselves." (I laughed my ass off with his performance.)

The point here being that car enthusiasts consider their interest level a sign of distinction and brotherhood.

Many church cultures are quite similar.

Programming can be both like a religion calling as well as a shared interest tribe. Outsiders are considered stupid, unknowledgeable, uncultured, not as worthy, and less-than. The tribalism in programming can extend to programming niches... lightweight vs heavyweight "bare metal" developers.

Or, ideological groupings. I think the Trump presidency and the alt-right galvanized a lot of middle-income and middle class whites into a feeling of belonging and cared for that they get nowhere else. (DON'T turn this into a political thread. Just using as an example.)

Lastly, perception of shared hardship adds a lot of social cohesion. Military is (in my opinion) the absolute tops for this. Blacks and some other minorities may experience fellowship through feeling of shared hardship. Programmers are the grown up equivalent of the nerd's table in the high school cafeteria.

The shared hardship may be a huge barrier to acceptance of an outsider.

Maybe people naturally seek identity thereby inducting themselves into a distinct peer group, for mutual admiration, protection and fellowship.

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