Author Topic: Stand Alone Cameras Are Dead: The HUAWEI P20 Phone With 3 Lenses  (Read 53 times)

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https://jmcomms.com/2018/04/17/huawei-p20-pro-review-taking-mobile-photography-up-a-notch/

https://jmcomms.com/2018/03/29/huawei-p20-pro-photo-gallery-part-one/

I have been watching the phones evolve for a while now. Up until the year I had dismissed the phones because the sensor/lens was too small as the pictures would be grainy. I had always used a DSLR but detested carrying the bulk but I also had a smaller removable lens camera. Though much smaller it was still something extra to carry.

In the last year I have been using my iPhone more and more photography. Frankly the photos that come out of are dam good considering the thing is in my pocket. In terms of usability and sharing it blows away every camera. Than I became aware that the iPhone 6 had 2 lenses. The pictures that come of it are pretty amazing. I have a 7 and only has 1 sense.

Now Huawei has come out with a phone with 3 lenses. The pictures this thing takes are truly staggering. And whats even scarier is that it fits in your pocket. I think it will sign the death bell for standalone cameras outside of professionals that need a DSLR.

Take a look at the pictures this thing takes. Truly amazing.
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Re: Stand Alone Cameras Are Dead: The HUAWEI P20 Phone With 3 Lenses
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2018, 07:46:50 am »
I'm a cheapass but I've experienced the same thing at the level of equipment I buy. You've posted about this before and I think it's closer to happening.

I bought a modest Moto G5S on a black Friday sale last winter and it's become not only my favorite phone but is my mainstay for quick snapshots. I also own a higher level P&S, a Canon Photoshot G16 which I purchased in 2015.

Here's the bottom line: Casual shots with the Moto are usually better than the Canon. The reason is that the tonality is better - shadows and highlights - even if the resolution at high magnification is not as good. Mainly because (I think) the phone implements high dynamic range (HDR) automatically for most high contrast scenes. The Canon has HDR but the phone's seems to have better actual results. The HDR has an auto and an always on setting and I set it to on by default.

The Canon cost $400 when I bought it for a single function device, and the Moto $169 for what amounts to a multiple function "tricorder".

The four edges that the Canon has over a camera phone are:

Much better available light performance and instant response on almost all shots.
Optical zoom, which makes a huge difference with some shots.
Far superior built in flash.
Manual controls - I can set the Canon like a classic 1930s rangefinder or 1960s SLR with all manual controls if I like.

But for the vast majority of pictures where I don't need these capabilities, the phone is convenient and effective.
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Re: Stand Alone Cameras Are Dead: The HUAWEI P20 Phone With 3 Lenses
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2018, 12:33:07 pm »

Interesting. I want to LG V20. It's older but has dual cameras.

I run Samsung S8 Plus now but not in love with it.
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Re: Stand Alone Cameras Are Dead: The HUAWEI P20 Phone With 3 Lenses
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2018, 02:46:10 pm »
I'm a cheapass but I've experienced the same thing at the level of equipment I buy. You've posted about this before and I think it's closer to happening.

I bought a modest Moto G5S on a black Friday sale last winter and it's become not only my favorite phone but is my mainstay for quick snapshots. I also own a higher level P&S, a Canon Photoshot G16 which I purchased in 2015.

Here's the bottom line: Casual shots with the Moto are usually better than the Canon. The reason is that the tonality is better - shadows and highlights - even if the resolution at high magnification is not as good. Mainly because (I think) the phone implements high dynamic range (HDR) automatically for most high contrast scenes. The Canon has HDR but the phone's seems to have better actual results. The HDR has an auto and an always on setting and I set it to on by default.

The Canon cost $400 when I bought it for a single function device, and the Moto $169 for what amounts to a multiple function "tricorder".

The four edges that the Canon has over a camera phone are:

Much better available light performance and instant response on almost all shots.
Optical zoom, which makes a huge difference with some shots.
Far superior built in flash.
Manual controls - I can set the Canon like a classic 1930s rangefinder or 1960s SLR with all manual controls if I like.

But for the vast majority of pictures where I don't need these capabilities, the phone is convenient and effective.

I am cheap too so dont feel bad! I agree with what you say about it taking better snaps. The iPhone has HDR as well and it will use it at will. So it very rarely has blown out highlights and the shadows are always perfect. Here is the reality as my doctor put it - who prints photos now? Very few people. If you look at them on the computer or phone they look fine.

Your points about the Canon are true but they are eroding. This Huawei has a 3x soon and a 5x hybrid optical/electronic zoom. On my iPhone it fires instantly, easily as fast as my DSLR. Frankly it fires too fast, if you hold the button down a little too long it fires off 5 shots like it was nothing. I imagine this Huawei is similar. The flash is not going to be good  as the light is so tiny. This Huawei doesn't seem to need to flash. It has a 40 meg sensor, thats crazy if you think about it.

I don't know if you ever see this app - its on the iPhone. It provides all the same controls that are on DSLR or rangefinder. You can change white balance, aperture, film speed, you can do auto exposure bracketing, exposure compensation and more.

http://www.procamapp.com

Take a look at the photos you can do:

https://www.instagram.com/procamapp/

It provides DSLR like controls for the phone. I am sure there is something like this for Android:

https://www.androidauthority.com/best-camera-apps-for-android-188148/

I had a Samsung S7 Edge last year and sold it. Was not a fan of the software and google tracking.