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benali72:
This article says that over age 30 is too old for a tech career in China. Yowch!

www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-02/china-s-tech-industry-wants-youth-not-experience

At what age do you think discrimination starts against people in IT in the USA?

The Gorn:

--- Quote from: benali72 on May 03, 2018, 07:38:59 pm ---At what age do you think discrimination starts against people in IT in the USA?

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I believe it truly depends upon the niche, the industry, the subsector of IT you work in. Also whether permanent or contract.

Just guessing based on message board comments:

Dot com, large portal companies - as a developer you're human trash by the age of 35 unless you get promoted to an executive position. Think of that prick Zuckerberg pronouncing that only under-30 developers were productive and useful entrepreneurially.

Vertical market, SaaS -  just depends on the company culture.

Internal IT/MIS - sometimes old farts make a home in an end user business.

(Last two are most heavily into domain and business knowledge which favors the mature.)

Borked contracts: probably age 45 and the appearance of any age related greying is where the cut is made.

I D Shukhov:
DoD with a clearance might get you to 60 max in a technical position.  In the last (and I mean last) big company I worked for there were 3 rounds of layoffs.  By the second round a friend in his 50s with an EE and a lot of SIGINT (signals intelligence) experience got laid off.  He, like me, was always getting good performance reviews.

My next door neighbor who is in her 70s, with an MSCS degree  and Java Enterprise experience is still working.   A college buddy who specialized in embedded and other low-level type experience is still working at 68.   A manager once took me aside at a small government contractor where we both worked and complained that he couldn't get him to use anything but DEC  Macro-11 assembly language.   I compliantly used FORTRAN and did whatever I was told to do.  He's still working, I'm not.

I D Shukhov:

--- Quote from: benali72 on May 03, 2018, 07:38:59 pm ---This article says that over age 30 is too old for a tech career in China. Yowch!

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Of course.  If you're a carton of milk past the sale date you're going to get thrown out.  China would have a huge supply of tech workers, so the employers can be very choosy about whom to hire at a lower cost with good-enough ability.  Same thing here with outsourcing and the H-1B program to fix the "desperate shortage" of software engineers in the US.




So, one wants to be an entrepreneur and not a commodity.



unix:
Age discrimination is widespread is former soviet republics like ukraine.

30-35 is their cutoff age also.

They will directly say so in the ad.

Like

Female waitress wanted. Under 29. European looking

Or malr truck driver. Under 35. 10 years of experience. Etc.

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